BetterSister

"no one can prove what really is getting people banned"
"it clearly isn't the bot itself being detected" 
inconsistency   i think ppl are geting baned because they are using bots, no1 can deny that

guys ok tauri tauri but i was thinking on not tauri one servers but from my country  sunwell team will open new mop realm,i know its  future becouse they realease first tbc,but mop will be also and it will be hard bot mop if they see all besides they have best gm's and time response for report tickets:)
i realy good know this guys and if they will have tool to auto ban they will use it without see you are friend or not:P

Not sure what you watched videos of, but even on 5.0 patch release, it was never like that. They do have cross-faction BGs implemented (you specifically have to opt-in) to make sure BGs are happening at any time. But their AH is cross-server, they have cross-server groups, raids, RDF, BGs and arenas between all 3 of their servers.

MoP is without a doubt one of the best expansions. Raids are challenging and PvP is the most balanced it has EVER been at patch 5.4.
Most veterans will tell you that. The expansion isn't well received, because too many westeners instantly get a hate-boner when they see the Asian-style continent. 
The server itself is also, easily, the best scripted server I have ever played on. More shit works on there, than Warmane was ever capable of fixing. They have had cross-realm interactions since forever and generally have really, really skilled devs. Also Hungarian, not Russian.
I personally think TBC and MoP are the only good states the game has ever been in. TBC had too much rng and was a bit too grindy for PvP, but PvE was both gated and challenging. MoP finally had balanced PvP, after removing almost all PvE gear. It was a bit too casual friendly and classes weren't unique enough anymore, but they introduced challenging 5 mans again and raids were actually both fun and hard.
Meanwhile vanilla is unpolished and just plain bad (of course, it was 2004-2006). Wrath is probably one of the most unbalanced expansions when it comes to PvP, because the entire balance resolves around what pieces of PvE gear are available. Haste and armor pen turn everything around and allow you to oneshot shit without time to react. The only other time PvP was that bad was during a short period of time in Cata when triple DPS was a thing. PvE in Wrath only became challenging in the last patch. Ulduar was cool, but only hardmodes were any challenging at all. Any heroics were a complete joke and so was the first raid tier. I'm honestly surprised people never got tired of farming ICC. Probably because it's so easy and you need to to become a God in PvP with no mentionable gameplay skills.
I truly believe the reason Vanilla and Wrath are so popular now is because they are the only expansions that have had a decent amount of open-source emulator work put into them over the past years. Because if you play Tauri, their core is absolutely mind-boggling. Never thought I'd see anything past Wrath work that well on private servers - but they are literally the ONLY ones out there and no open-source cores are halfway decent. Same for Cata, except Twinstar might be the only halfway decent server (but dead).
 

About pathfinding, it is not perfect I am agree, and get stuck on gameobjects added by the server, but with default settings and without plugin, I am rarely stuck (of course, this depend mainly of your profile and your current zone, but if you use NPC of your profile (with path tested by the creator) you will not get problem, but if you start to use your NPC with an random profile (not optimized) you have chance to get problems).
About quests editor, it is recommended to slit your profile in several files (and at the last step load next file), but if you need to insert step, you can edit with notepad, xml codes of steps is easy to edit manually (and I think than you don't need to insert a step near the firsts frequently).

im with you about warmane bans, i dont think the bot itself is detected, more like very active gms banning bots. even i can do it without access to their db. got tons of lvling bots, hard to monitor them. about the ip problematic, it seems warmane doesnt care at all about ip. had tests with multiple bots on same ip and pc also with my main on it and bots gets banned seperatly. main is still alive.

my friend tried grinding in terrokar with lvl 70 on a pretty popular spot, same time i was in voice with him. after ~15min his char got ported multiple times during a fight by few inches. i guess to check the immediate bot movement to the mob (it was a rogue). he immediatly wrote ??? in /s and the gm whispered him sorry bot check. after that he closed the bot and grinded another 15 min by hand with ctm like a dumbass bot.

Another point which confirms for me that wrobot is not detected is, bgs works without any problems if you have a good routine and profiles. grinded 300k honor without any problems.

Also i found out lvling during midnight is much safer than any other time (EU time), which confirms for me even more its just very active gms since most players are eu based.

10 years ago was good bot, but now no. Try it again (no lua, no pathfinding, ...).

-still undetected not like wrobot.
-200 times better then wrobot in bgs.
-better farming then wrobot.
-automatic whisper respond.
- can do almost everything as wrobot
 
the only things that i get in mind rn is that you can use wrobot for rotations and add extra plugins/rotations thats the only positive difference.
10 years old and not developed anymore and still beats the shit out of most bots.... what a shame ?

In great detail:
You have 3 options when botting in VANILLA.
1) Wrobot - 8 euro /mo
2) Zzukbot - free
3) Vanillabotter - 5$/mon
 
Zzukbot Zzukbot is a free bot that was developed by Zzuk and is purely a Grind Bot. it will Skin, and thats it, Grinding and skinning ONLY. Zzukbot is a Great bot if you cannot afford other choices, it is very reliable. Pathing is  click to move, based on hotspots. For example i myself sell a zzukbot package for 1-60 horde and 1-60 alliance. Profiles are basically routes that you can circle or make in a straight line. You have the option of setting a search range, and modifiying waypoint distances of + and -. You can have a DO NOT SELL list, and several other options including a relogger. You can have the bog logout every x mins and back in - which is super nice. Zzukbot uses a great system for Fight Classes. Some of the most advanced Custom Classes ( The bots rotations and spells ) i have seen out of all the bots. Zzukbot also has the benefit of not getting stuck, it will automatically move around objects to prevent you from being stuck. Zzukbot requires you to change profiles every 3-4 levels, so it requires manual input which isnt bad because you should always check every few hours.  
Wrobot Wrobot is a paid bot which is the most advanced of the 3. You can do just about anything including questing, grinding, fishing, pvp, dungeons, party, fuck you name it. You can have Plugins, and fight classes - however all the good plugins and fight classes and profiles are anywhere from 8euro to 30euro. So if you are not willing to spend money i would advice against this bot because the Free profiles just dont cut it. Wrobot really has no flaws, maybe the pathing being all jerky and bot like - but zzukbot/wrobot are exactloy uthe same. Wrobot has the advantage of being 100% afk with some profiles such as my own. Meaning you start it at level 1 and everythign is automated. Whereas Zzuk + Vanillabotter you must change profiles every 3 levels  
Vanillabotter Vanillabotter is a paid bot of 5$ per month. Its the most basic of the 3, and has many flaws and few advantaes. Some of its advantages are herb, mining, skinning, fishing. Vanillabotter is also based on hotspot pathing, meaning the bot will go to Each Hotspot in a row, it wont randomly select, so its a set path. And is best used in a circular type profile because at the end it usually will start from the beginning again. Vanillabotter fight classes arent to advanced, and very few i have seen do what we need. Such as mage - it wont backup or sheep or anything like that. Just straight up mad man cast. Vanillabotter also gets stuck often, if the profile isnt pristine, it will run into a tree and not auto move around it.  
Hope it helps!

Sorry

I am running Vanilla now. Is there anything we're supposed to look for? ?
Edit: Running with my dungeon bot as a test:
Started it mid orgrimmar, on it's way to RFC it ran into every single brazzier it could. ?

Hello,
I need some review (and  eventually  new bugs report) of this version.
Close WRobot, download, extract and replace files in the folder "WRobot\Bin\", when you will start WRobot he will request you update, ignore it (if you update you go back to live version).
This update is mainly for improve moving, I tried to remove the stops, but I fixed several bugs and added some options like "Ignore fights when travaling" (in advanced general settings), this option is disabled by default, but if you can try to activate it and give me review (I would like to know if I activate it or not by default)
vanilla.rar
tbc.zip
wotlk.zip

As you can see here, it took me 1 day and  7 hours to get from 1-70.
I have a method that is extremely fast for leveling up and quite safe.
The way that i used, there is no chance that anybody can report me. Hence no ban...
It's 100% report or manual GM detection..

It's been stated that wrobot is not supporting classic retail.
Also, i can almost guarantee that most of the stuff we have made for private servers won't work properly for vanilla classic. ?

well bad for you then because you are definitly not a long time user ?

You need to stop saying stuff like "Warmane detected the bot" without having proof.
Example: Before last updates, every time a char leveled to level 10 using wrobot, people would get a instant ban. THIS is detection. This is how tauri detected wrobot.
IF you get instant banned at x point, THEN wrobot is detected. If you get banned between level 20-30 or 40-50 or 50-60.That means you have been reported by players, the GM looked at you play and decided that you were a bot.
IF you get 5 accounts banned at the same time, it either means that all your 5 bots were reported, and then when they handed out ban hammers, all 5 bots was on their "paper".
OR it means that your 5 bots were connected someway, this could be IP or something else.
Yes i do not want to know that you use proxy etc. I am sure you are taking your precautions.
To those who use proxy, and think that they are safe behind a HTTP proxy. You are wrong... The only place wow uses http is your log in. as soon as you get ON the server with a char. a HTTP proxy is no longer hiding you.

Wow uses lua yes but wrobot used csharp. I managed to make scripts using csharp only for couple years but now when I've learned some lua I'd value lua > csharp

I found how they detect WRobot I'll fix it in next update
 

This  the key to botting is riding it till the wheels fall off, the more the merrier, best case scenrio it reaches into the early 50's and u just level rest by hand and play legit rest of the time if not RIP that account cause its already on borrowed time.

i'd just go for it

There is none. If someone tries to sell you one, it's scam
 

I'll tell you guys a funny botting story, that only boters will understand, i guess. True story btw.
Back in 2008-2009 when wotlk was released i was using WowMimic for grinding. It was decent cheap grinder back then and skinning was profitable. The bot was only able to run in circle (no pathfinder, only moveing from point A to point B, to C and so on) and spam 1, 2 , 3 buttons. We were using macrosses instead of rotation and bot was just spamming button 1 each second, button 2 each 5 seconds and button 3 each 15 seconds or someething like that. Bot was also able to sell stuff to a vendor and mail the rest to the alt. Just so you understand how shitty it was.
There was no mail checking by GM's back then, so, as you may guess, everyone was sending things to an alt and then sell it. Everyone except me, because i was paranoid (and moron, even more then i am now). Instead of runing 30+ bots and mail loot to an alt, like everyone did, i was running like 5 bots and was selling everithing myself with every bot. By hands..
And then one day chinese developers (or whoever they was) made an update for bot (and you was not able to reject update of your bot back then). With the new update, for some reason, instead of mailing to an alt bot was sending an empty ticket to GM (rofl). During one day hundreds of bots have "reported" themselves. It was so fucking funny, that i am laughing every time i remember this. Bot that spam tickets to gm, i can't even imagine how to do that on purpose.
The forum was flooded with rage of the guys who have lost theyr farms, or was not able to bot and mail to an alt. And there was "smart" me, who was laughing at them all and giving advices like: "You should never mail to alt in a first place, because this way they may ban all you bots in one go, just by mail check" and so on.
They was not even answering back then, and only after like year or two i counted that they were farming tones of gold with automated process almost without bans, and i was sitting there as slave with my shitty 5 bots, farming my 500$ per month, doing half work by hands and thinking how smart i am.

If you have problems facing the target, look at the 1000s of topics regarding this issue where peopel don't run on 60 Hz with vsync enabled

E] 21:50:52 - Keyboard access problem, activate option UseLuaToMove.
[E] 21:50:52 - Warning: You need to activate 'Vertical Sync' option, for it go to 'Game Menu' > 'Video Options' > in 'Miscellaneous' activate 'Vertical Sync'.
[E] 21:50:52 - Warning: You need to use '60Hz' at option the option 'Refresh', for it go to 'Game Menu' > 'Video Options' > in 'Display' select '60Hz' at the option 'Refresh'.
[E] 21:50:52 - Warning: It is recommended to disable all wow AddOns.
[E] 21:50:52 - Warning: You need to run Wow in Windowed mode, for it go to 'Game Menu' > 'Video Options' > in 'Display' activate option 'Windowed Mode'.

Yup. Doesn't matter what version of wow you bot they see it and you get hammer