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Most of the issues you have faced was wrobot issues (or even all of them was). But you have targeted developers of payed products. Maybe not everithing perfect there either and there may be conflicts, like you want it to be that way, but developer made it anoother way. But most of the times the stuff that developer able to control - works. The wrobot stuff - don't. Maybe that's why some people tell you "try it yourself", just so you undertand where all this bullshit you have faced come from and that all of us fighting it for years.

It's global. Just wait.

3 hours ago, jiraiyasm said:

hi all. i have no idea about the codes posted here. I was trying to search how to get my warlock create a spellstone then use it. i tried to base the "create healthstone" but I don't know how to get the itemID for the spellstone. if anyone can help me out that would be really great!

You can use wowhead:


Or you can start wrobot and use Tool/Development Tool:

And then "Bag Items" or "Get all Objects" (if you have the spellstone already) or "Info by name".

P.S. Don't use 41191 from my screenshot. It's most likely not a spellstone you are looking for.

No, he is not compare bananas with apples. He is comparing rare using of bot (how it should be) with the case when everyone using it (how you guys want it to be, it seems).
And the fact that this code will be used for private realms is actually counterargument for you. There are less players, it will be much easyer to flood all possible realms, because there are less realms total.

Also, I wonder, let's say, some developer releases some code for sale. Let's say it's something simple, like the right coordinates siquence, the only one that is right (just for the sake of example). He have spend couple mounth of testing to get those coordinates right and to solve some problem with it, that's why he is selling it. What will prevent you guys to "to borrow" his solution (because it's the only right one) without spending 3-4 mounth for testing and make it a part of a free project? And then there will be like 700 people running the same coordinates.

Also no one states that this project should be banned or something, you can do whatever you want.

That's how you kill botting everyone) Give everyone everything for free, let them flood realms and make gms mad. Wait till everyone will do the same as Tauri. What a wonderfull undertaking.

Nothing bad can ever happen if you populize botting, and give it to everyone, with the lowest enter possible. Right? Oh wait, HB did that once and how are they doing now? Oh, and how is retail wow botting is doing in genereal? Everithing will be fine, lets just do the same.

Both, guys who are make a living selling paid stuff and guys who make a living with mass botting will be so glad to all of those outcomes. Why shouldn't they, right?

1 hour ago, Bambo said:

Also i had to defend my grinders alot why they farm so many green mobs. Looks like you understand why.

That's why mentioned this, have seen lots of irritation by this fact, while i personally do the same with my own profiles deliberately.

it's obviously not my buisness. But if you make a multiclass route trugh mobs that are able to disarm, then just exclude those mobs from attack list will not help mele classes at all. Once again, i have not tested the said profile, but if that's the case, it's a bad disign atleast. But then again, it's a developer right to what he things is the fastest way to level, atleast if he can pruve his statement that this is the right way to go. For example i do get like 5 levels at the grey-green areas because it safer and i loose less bots leveling like this, but if my profile was public, i bet every second customer would sayd that this is wrong.

Also i completely agree with @CocoChanel statement, that description of a file that someone selling should realistic, don't understand why anyone will arguing with that.

I have 6 accounts banned once (with proxies and stuff) that was not boting. Was just standing afk inside a WC. Gm decided that they are probobly fishing there and banned them all. While they don't even have a fishing skill. I wrote an apeal, 3 or 4 month have passed and they didn't not answer it yet)

So basic rule here is "If they decide that you are doing something wrong, they ban you". No proofs are needed and appeal seems useless.

9 hours ago, youthemannowdog said:

that's funny because in glider it was the opposite.

All the profiles were AT LEAST pretty good so the normies had no issue leveling off of free profiles (without 4+ deaths per hour and getting stuck on EVERY quest) so the normies didnt pay.
And then the professional botters payed $35 a pop for amazing silent completely afk mass bot-able profiles that nobody could dream to visually detect through private forums.

here tho all the content is braindead and the client lacks basic built in features

Those who mass bot do their own stuff mostly. I suspect that the same was with glider.

Also at what retail expansion you were using Glider again?

1 hour ago, Zer0 said:

Another solution would be to simply engage any "valid" hostile mob that comes into aggro range, instead of running into them. That's exactly what I'm trying to do with Z.E.Radar. 

Unfortunately, the core of wRobot makes it way harder to achieve than it seems.

Yep, you will face many interesting things inbuilt in wrobot that is hard to overcome by your code. Welcome to the club.

Also your solution is also bad. It will attack any mob on the way when he does not need to attack anyone (when bot can pass by safely or bot is stealthed and so on).

Some time ago, Droidz made an update with the "roads concept". Any time bot need to move anywhere, he will try to do it by the road, because there is no mobs on the roads and that path will be faster. Previously he was just running straight with the shortest path. Nice update, i'd say. Very helpfull for 90% users. But for me, it was a nightmare. All my to town pathes was broken and the only way i was able to fix it is by blacklisting all the roads, wich is, again, very stupid solution from my side, because i can't use roads with pathfider now.

1 hour ago, Zer0 said:

I disagree. Nothing indicates that the bot tried to engage combat with the elemental. It just went straight for the bird. The elemental is ignored either because it's blacklisted or not in the profile.

This is most likely the profile's fault and it's incredibly common.

Edited first part of my post, the one that about blacklisting, may be interesting for you.

When wrobot blacklists the mob, it does not blacklist mobs position, so it continue to run trough. (That's how wrobot works, and this is right (logical) way to do it)

When wrobot blacklist location (for any reason) it makes weird path around, that almost always leads to even more death in tight locations. (That's how wrobot works, and this is right (logical) way to do it)

Also, most funny thing, wrobot will blacklist every mob you kill for some time (because why not, righ..) so as a result, when that exact mob will respawn, bot will ignore it for like 15 minutes more, and that, most likely, will lead to body pulling this mob on the way to another, not ignored mob. This is completely illogical. I have reported this bug for like a year now, but some gus have reported it way-way before me. 2-3 years for a critical bugs is okay here.

At this video, bot is just running for a bird ignoreing the elemental on his way. This is also a normal behavior if your path is made like this (kills only birds in the area with elementals). He will just run for a mob that he needs for a quest / grind. The only thing that interfire with this issue is HMP, it will try to constantly scan is there any mob on the way, and if there is one, he will try to stop whatever wrobot is doing and will try to kill that mob first. This thing is not alway working tho. The real fix to this is to set kill both elementals and birds in your profile, or make a detailed path to avoid elementals and set search mob radius to very low. No one do that, as you can see.

At this video, you can see how bot is trying to frost bolt elemental first, but facing wrong direction, so it quits it and goes for a bird. Btw he is trying to kill it, most likely, because of HMP, other way he would ignore it completley. That facing wrong direction is also bot side problem.

At this video, nothig wrong is happening. Mage pulls the mob. Bodypulls another one, caster (wich is = death for mage in vanilla if you do not CC, but you can't polymorph dragons anyway). At the end HMP decides that he will try to tun away from combat (Wich i recomend to turn off).

At this video, is the same problem that was with elementals. Your profile ignores dragons or that exact dragon was blacklisted before by a wrobot.

At this video, wrobot blacklists mob while casting. This happens all the time, btw. That's how it works, for example. Bot decides to attack the mob. The range for attack he chooses (with FC or any other way) is 20 meters. He creates the path to a position 20 meters away from the mob. Targets mob and runs that path. Whenever bot have a mob targeted, fight class is activated (actually not excatley like this but nvm). In your fight class there is a frost bolt, that can be casted 30 meter away from the mob. Bot spams it when he is 30 meters away from the mob. Starts to cast. The act of cast breaks movement to 20 meters position. Bot is casting and trying to get closer to the mob at the same time, but he can't move closer, because movement is turned off for a casting time. He does not know that. He desides that he is stuck in the wall and mob is unreachable. He black list the mob. Then frost bolt is fired. Bot targets next mob and here we go. You can fix it with a fight class (i do) but once again, this is inbuid wrobot problem.

5 hours ago, youthemannowdog said:

It's just very monopolized here. I don't know if that's intentional. 
And to be fair most of my experience so far has been TBC or lower but I've looked into the forum download sections up to legion out of morbid curiousity.

Matenia makes the fight classes and makes a mandetory plugin that basically any serious botter basically needs to compensate for the lack of usability in the client.

Andoido is the only person making questers but damn does it struggle

Bambo and Truly are/were the only people really making any grinders... but grinders get you banned...

Mate. No offence, but every point here is wrong. Literally every single one.

You don't need any of it to bot. Grinder don't get you banned and so on...

There is like 2.5 buyers for payed products, where do you want another developers come from if there is no money in here? It's not retail. There is no HB user base. Why do you think every other bot suck at privat realms? Because there nothing to do for them. No one want to tear apart his ass making things for 2.5 buyers, that basicly will quit vanilla when tehir level 15 rogue wearing grey dagger will not be able to kill a boar of the same lavel.

P.S. Honestly saying, after all this stuff i want even to try publish some of my own things for sale and see how everyone will complain that it's to expensive or not perfect, while i was able to level literally thousend accounts with it.

3 hours ago, CocoChanel said:

I think the people who mass bot wouldn't mind paying 100-150 dollars a month to have a selection of properly working profiles, and not this trash we are seeing atm.

What? Why? They don't use public profiles at all.

On 7/18/2019 at 10:58 AM, Marsbar said:

Not sure which of the suggestions you're talking about but if it's mutex remember that its PC wide and if you have multiple wrobot instances its best to name your mutex (in wdiscord i use the charname as the unique identifier) 

I was actually need only a true/false trigger that will not die with my process but will die wit a wrobot process. Inbuild Var class did the trick (atleast for now, will need to coplete the code first to be sure). But thank you anyway.

That's great, didn't know it exist. I don't even need a value, so Exist() will do just fine. Thank you.

All that thing causes another problem.

When i create separate thread, it kills quester thread and. as a result, my plugin thread. Then it starts the quester again. Quester starts the plugin. Plugin starts new separate thread, that is killing quester again aaaaaaand down to the endles cycle we go.

So befor createon of a new thread within the plugin, i need to check isn't there already that thread running, left by a previous plugin. But i can't do it from within current  plugin thread, because it's a separate thread from the thread created by a previous plugin copy )))))

Is there any way to check for a status of a separate running thread? Maybe by it's name? Like wrobot.exe/MyThread?

Or maybe i can create a variable that will be stored not in my plugin but in wrobot.exe thread? Then i'll be able to set it false after the wrobot.exe start, and set it true after the first thread start.

1 hour ago, tonycali said:

if running into mobs and chain dieing is a problem in rogue fc turn on always range pull and set ammunition buy 1-2 stacks and hell pull them so u dont get zerged by 3+ mobs or groups

Except it will look botish as hell and humanoids and beasts of the same type will be pulled all together anyway.

You need to check for every pull, should it be done with a ranged weapon, or witha body pull, or skipped and blacklisted.

Edited.


Nevermind, solved.

My 5 cents
There are 3 types of users here.
1) Single bot users (Guys that just level some accounts for themselves, they come and go)
2) Many bot users (Guys that make a living from this, they stay for long)
3) Developers (Guys that are selling stuff that solve your problems)

I am type 2 myself. Not a developer, not buyer of a paid stuff (unless i want to support seller or just curious).
I've bought Human Master Plugin from @Matenia, i'm not using it, just bought to see what it does. Bought some stuff from @Ordush, also not using it. Bought 1 profile forom @BetterSister, never used it. And bought one more plugin long ago from a guy that is not selling anymore (Edited it a little, using it, but going to rewrite it completely soon).

You are type 1. Type 2 don't like you, basically. Because you don't understand what's going on and what are you doing, so you just a target practice for GM's. You make bot concept publical and then it becomes harder for type 2 to live.

Type 3 are the only guys that want to help you. But they ask couple dollars for their time. I don't actually understand why do they do this sometimes, because the time they spend for teir products cost much more then the product price. I know it because i've bought some of it (even if i don't needed it) and all of it was made great. But the point is, you don't want to pay them. Then the only way for you is to become Type 2. Do everything yourself, spend couple years editing your profiles every few days. Are you ready to this? Guess not.

P.S. Payd stuff solves alot of problems, not all of them, but a lot. I'm agreed with :"i should know what am i buying". Payd stuff should have detailed description,  but you also should remember that there will be problems that are still not solved anyway.

P.P.S Most of developers (actually all of them, except for those that have not logged in for year) are gladly communicate and fixing the bugs. They are also helping you to understand even basic concepts if you are complete noob, that is definitely not theyr job, but they do it anyway. Try it if you're stuck with their product.

Thanks a lot. Will try it tomorrow

I'm sorry, but how do i do that? Plugin itself decides when to kill process and what to do next. If it also got killed, no other thread will know what to do next. Do you mean that if i do it something like:
 

private BackgroundWorker backgroundThread;
blah-blah-blah
public void Start()
 {
   backgroundThread = new BackgroundWorker();
   backgroundThread.DoWork += Pulse;
   backgroundThread.RunWorkerAsync();
 }
blah-blah-blah

And do all the stuff inside the Pulse method, then this thread will not be killed together with the plugin thread?

I've got a plugin, that checks if something specific have happened (in a complicated way, like different teleports, continent change, gm checks and so on)

The idea is, i do my quest profile, while plugin is working at background. When plugin got triggered i need to stop current quest profile and load new one, totally different, for another continent and so on.

The point i've stuck at. Stop quester and load anoter profile. Basicly when i stop quester product, bot brakes (stop / pouse buttons are inactive anymore, it only can be closed after that) and quest log looks like this:

18:27:30.883 - [Quester] Started
18:27:30.886 - 111111111111111111111111111111
18:27:31.886 - 222222222222222222222222222222
18:27:31.965 - [Quester] Stopped
18:27:32.489 - [Quester] Stopped
18:27:32.489 - [Quester] Closed
18:27:32.721 - Session statistics:
Elapsed time: 00h:00m:04s
XP/HR: 0 - 0 min
Kills: 0 (0/hr)
Deaths: 0 (0/hr)
Stucks: 0 (0/hr)
Farms: 0 (0/hr)
Loots: 0 (0/hr)
Money/HR: 0 G 00 S 00 C (0 G 00 S 00 C)

Code i use:
 

if (condition)
{
 Logging.Write("111111111111111111111111111111");
 Thread.Sleep(1000);
 Logging.Write("222222222222222222222222222222");
 Products.DisposeProduct();
 Logging.Write("333333333333333333333333333333");
 Thread.Sleep(1000);
 ArgsParser.Product = "Quester";
 Thread.Sleep(1000);
 ArgsParser.Profile = "MyProfile.xml";
 Thread.Sleep(1000);
 Products.LoadProducts("Quester");
}

So my guess is, when i stop quester product, it also stop all plugins and, as a result, my plugin can't start quester with another profile.

There also may be some problems after "33333333" message, but i don't get there yet.

So the question is, how do i do "condition based quester profile change"? I don't need to change product (atleast yet) only the profile. It should be able triger with a condition and should do it multiple times per run if needed.
Maybe my code is wrong? Or maybe i should do it not with a plugin but how then?

This is probably the hardest one of my "stucks" with a wrobot so far, because i can't see workaround, even the bad ones, so any advics are much appreciated. Thank you in advance.

No, it's not minimum. That's if you want someone to solve your problem for you. The minimum is to make everything youself as you need it. It's free.

But to be fair, while i have not tryed any payed prifile i'm most certiant they are bad just because of lack of testing. You need to level literaly hundreds characters with a profile to test and fix everithing. It may took you monthes, or years. No one will do so much work for 5$

As @Matenia said, try to do it yourself and you everything will become clear )

Okay, seems like i have found one more problem. I can stop movement now, but if after i've stoped it, i'll do any Thread.Sleep then it automatically set cancelable.Cancel to false.

Another words, i need to stop current even to preven bot from running. I do stop it. Then i do my own work, but if in a process i will use any Thread.Sleep (wich i will use for elevators or to check something, for example). Then it just unsubscribes from event and bot once again start to run wherever he wants.

I't almost imposible to do not use thread.sleep. Or i will run in circles like a mad, instead of standing still, or i'll burn my cpu.

Any ideas how to avoid that behavior?