Druid Feral FightClass question (Savage Roar)

[jcarlos1984 0]

Hello, I would like to know how I can make the Savage Roar skill work effectively. I made a fight class for my feral druid and so far working perfectly, it does renew Rake and Rip with 2-3seg to drop, among other things I enjoyed the fight class very much. But when I added to use the Savage Roar in the spin, it seems he is not recognizing the condition Buff casted by me> False, when putting this condition, he should use Savage Roar and jump to the next Skill of the spin, as it happens with Rake, Rip etc. However he uses Savage Roar several times and then jumps to the next spinning skill. I would like someone to please help me sort this out, how do I put Savage Roar effective with these conditions without repeatedly repeating unnecessary combo points?

Buff: Prowl> False
Buff Casted by me> Savage Roar> False
Combo Point> 3> BiggerOrequal
Engery> 40> BiggerOrequal

In my view these conditions would already make it work perfect what is doing it repeat many times before using the Rip skill with 5 combos?

19:21:30 - [Fight] Player Attack Dungeoneer's Training Dummy (lvl 112)
[F] 19:21:33 - [Spell] Cast Rake (Rake)
[F] 19:21:34 - [Spell] Cast Ashamane's Frenzy (Ashamane's Frenzy)
[F] 19:21:35 - [Spell] Cast Savage Roar (Savage Roar)
[F] 19:21:36 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:21:37 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:21:38 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:21:38 - [Spell] Cast Savage Roar (Savage Roar)
[F] 19:21:39 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:21:40 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:21:41 - [Spell] Cast Savage Roar (Savage Roar)
[F] 19:21:42 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:21:43 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:21:44 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:21:45 - [Spell] Cast Rip (Rip)
[F] 19:21:46 - [Spell] Cast Rake (Rake)
[F] 19:21:47 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:21:48 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:21:49 - [Spell] Cast Ferocious Bite (Ferocious Bite)
[F] 19:21:50 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:21:51 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:21:52 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:21:53 - [Spell] Cast Ferocious Bite (Ferocious Bite)

See he uses 3 Savage roar to jump to Rip, what is he doing it repeat so many times?

[jcarlos1984 0]

Good with more tests here, apparently he repeats the cast of Savage Roar many times before rotating the Rip skill, after the rotation of the rip apparently the rotation gets normal as I want it to do, the problem is just the beginning of the beginning of the fight or of rotation.

20:53:54 - [Fight] Player Attack Dungeoneer's Training Dummy (lvl 112)
[F] 20:53:55 - [Spell] Cast Tiger's Fury (Tiger's Fury)
[F] 20:53:55 - [Spell] Cast Rake (Rake)
[F] 20:53:56 - [Spell] Cast Savage Roar (Savage Roar)
[F] 20:53:57 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 20:53:58 - [Spell] Cast Ashamane's Frenzy (Ashamane's Frenzy)
[F] 20:53:59 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 20:53:59 - [Spell] Cast Savage Roar (Savage Roar)
[F] 20:54:00 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 20:54:01 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 20:54:02 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 20:54:02 - [Spell] Cast Savage Roar (Savage Roar)
[F] 20:54:03 - [Spell] Cast Savage Roar (Savage Roar)
[F] 20:54:04 - [Spell] Cast Savage Roar (Savage Roar)
[F] 20:54:04 - [Spell] Cast Savage Roar (Savage Roar)
[F] 20:54:05 - [Spell] Cast Savage Roar (Savage Roar)
[F] 20:54:06 - [Spell] Cast Savage Roar (Savage Roar)
[F] 20:54:07 - [Spell] Cast Savage Roar (Savage Roar)
[F] 20:54:07 - [Spell] Cast Rake (Rake)
[F] 20:54:08 - [Spell] Cast Savage Roar (Savage Roar)
[F] 20:54:09 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 20:54:10 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 20:54:11 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 20:54:12 - [Spell] Cast Rip (Rip)
[F] 20:54:13 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 20:54:17 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 20:54:20 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 20:54:21 - [Spell] Cast Ferocious Bite (Ferocious Bite)
[F] 20:54:22 - [Spell] Cast Ferocious Bite (Ferocious Bite)
[F] 20:54:23 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 20:54:24 - [Spell] Cast Rake (Rake)
[F] 20:54:24 - [Spell] Cast Tiger's Fury (Tiger's Fury)

[ScripterQQ 89]

Actually you don't need "Buff Casted By Me > false", just put instead "Buff: Savage Roar > false" and on settings (upper-right corner) put "Is Buff > false". Then you can add the prowl/combo points/energy conditions aswell of course.

Try this way, I was using this method and it worked for me.

[jcarlos1984 0]

8 hours ago, scripterx said:

Actually you don't need "Buff Casted By Me > false", just put instead "Buff: Savage Roar > false" and on settings (upper-right corner) put "Is Buff > false". Then you can add the prowl/combo points/energy conditions aswell of course.

Try this way, I was using this method and it worked for me.

I tried as Buff: Savage Roar> False, but neither use the skill he wore, it's only working with Buff casing by me: Savage Roar> false, so he uses the ability but not the right way it's like he does not accurately check the condition and uses the skill several times before continuing the spin.
But when you put Buff: Savage Roar, there's also the same problem of using the Savage Roar skill several times, it's as if wrobot was not able to accurately verify this buff> False condition. This also happens with Tiger's Fury that I selected to be King of the Jungle, and when I use Incarnation he does not use Tiger's Fury together, as if the condition Buff: Incarnation: King of the Jungle> True was not being recognized. Could it be some bug in wrobot or some configuration? Would not someone have a C sharp code or Lua script that would accurately verify the active buff condition in the player?

[ScripterQQ 89]

What about deleting the ability from the list and re-write it? I had some similar problems with paladin seals, maybe it can help you.

[jcarlos1984 0]

So I tried to use the C sharp Code! ObjectManager.Me.HaveBuff (52610) to do the Savage Roar> False check and even then he used Savage Roar several times as if he could not quickly verify Buff's condition: False , maybe because Savage Roar is in a different buff condition? It is now separated in the game in a different window, "Consolidated Buffs": if this is the case Wrobot is not able to verify the condition.

12:48:07 - [Fight] Player Attack Raider's Training Dummy (lvl 113)
[F] 12:48:15 - [Spell] Cast Rake (Rake)
[F] 12:48:15 - [Spell] Cast Incarnation: King of the Jungle (Incarnation: King of the Jungle)
[F] 12:48:16 - [Spell] Cast Tiger's Fury (Tiger's Fury)
[F] 12:48:16 - [Spell] Cast Ashamane's Frenzy (Ashamane's Frenzy)
[F] 12:48:17 - [Spell] Cast Savage Roar (Savage Roar)
[F] 12:48:18 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 12:48:19 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 12:48:20 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 12:48:20 - [Spell] Cast Savage Roar (Savage Roar)
[F] 12:48:21 - [Spell] Cast Savage Roar (Savage Roar)
[F] 12:48:22 - [Spell] Cast Savage Roar (Savage Roar)
[F] 12:48:23 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 12:48:23 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 12:48:24 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 12:48:25 - [Spell] Cast Savage Roar (Savage Roar)
[F] 12:48:26 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 12:48:27 - [Spell] Cast Savage Roar (Savage Roar)
[F] 12:48:28 - [Spell] Cast Rake (Rake)
[F] 12:48:29 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 12:48:30 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 12:48:31 - [Spell] Cast Rip (Rip)
[F] 12:48:32 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 12:48:33 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 12:48:33 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 12:48:34 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 12:48:35 - [Spell] Cast Ferocious Bite (Ferocious Bite)
[F] 12:48:36 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 12:48:37 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)

[jcarlos1984 0]

Watch carefully, at the beginning of the fight in rotation he uses several times the Savage Roar jumping the rotation to Shred he still continues using Savage Roar and when he uses the Rip, then he "begins" the natural rotation doing normally, but in the middle of the fight again he uses many Savages Roar even with the active Buff, as I said earlier it is as if he did not verify that Savage Roar was active, so it is as if he skipped the Buff: Savage Roar> False condition and repeated the Savage Roar.

[jcarlos1984 0]

Well, I'm having problems the days about Savage Roar, I can not add it to my wrotation with efficiency, it does not really recognize the condition Buff: Savage Roar> False so it's enabled, it gets activated several times before continuing rotation. I tried to do my rotation without having Savage Roar in wrotation, doing it manually, but even the Rip and Ferocitious Bite that I set to be used only with Buff: Savage Roar> True also does not work. he also appears not to recognize this condition, to recognize the wrobot himself has to use the Savage Roar skill for the other abilities to recognize the buff.

I am extremely discouraged with W Robot, I have paid 1 year and have no return of support, apparently there seems to be some bug about some recognition of talent skills I can not tell.
How can I get a refund of wrobot? Or will not even this answer me?

[ScripterQQ 89]

I'm gonna test the savage roar spell on a druid and see if I have problems, but I play 3.3.5, and looking at your log looks like you play retail or another expansion because I don't know about "Ashamane's Frenzy (Ashamane's Frenzy)" or "Incarnation: King of the Jungle" (doesn't matter at all but at least knowing if it's a problem related to the spell itself or to the expansion you're playing)

[jcarlos1984 0]

I play on the official blizzard server, the expansion is Legion 7.3.5, and what I understand is precisely these skills that are also giving problems. It seems that some conditions that you impose on wrobot it does not accept or recognize.
For example: Ashamane's Frenzy
Buff: Prowl> False
Combo Point: 2> SmallOrEqual
Buff: Tiger's Fury> True
Energy: 60> SmallerOrEqual

Ashamane's Frenzy simply ignores the Buff: Tiger's Fury> True condition, it recognizes Buff: Prowl> False, Combo Point: 2> SmallOrEqual and Energy: 60> SmallerOrEqual, working perfectly with these conditions. But it totally ignores the Buff: Tiger's Fury> True condition, meaning it is activated without this Tiger's Fury buff activated. So I see that there is some problem in recognizing Buff conditions: True or False, he is not doing an accurate reading or is simply ignoring or skipping some stage.
And it is not only with the fightclass of the feral druid, other classes are also not recognizing this condition effectively, including downloading optimal fightclass as Camelot10 has done and even tested something of it but still not recognizing the condition.

[jcarlos1984 0]

3 hours ago, scripterx said:

I'm gonna test the savage roar spell on a druid and see if I have problems, but I play 3.3.5, and looking at your log looks like you play retail or another expansion because I don't know about "Ashamane's Frenzy (Ashamane's Frenzy)" or "Incarnation: King of the Jungle" (doesn't matter at all but at least knowing if it's a problem related to the spell itself or to the expansion you're playing)

Well, I did another test here, I removed all the skills in which you said you did not recognize, using Rake, Rip, Ferocious Bite and Savage Roar, a very simple rotation, but with the same results, it does not recognize the buff condition: savage roar: false, it ignores, as if even activating the ability once, it continues to recognize that it is not enabled, so using it often, so apparently it finally recognizes the condition and rotates the skills, I think it's some recognition delay of the BUFF condition, and when the Savage Roar skill ends, renewing it rotates the same problem, using several times until you jump to the Rip skill. View logs

19:10:46 - [Fight] Player Attack Raider's Training Dummy (lvl 113)
[F] 19:10:48 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:10:49 - [Spell] Cast Rake (Rake)
[F] 19:10:50 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:10:51 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:10:52 - [Spell] Cast Savage Roar (Savage Roar)
[F] 19:10:53 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:10:57 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:10:57 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:10:59 - [Spell] Cast Savage Roar (Savage Roar)
[F] 19:11:00 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:11:01 - [Spell] Cast Rake (Rake)
[F] 19:11:02 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:11:04 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:11:05 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:11:06 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:11:07 - [Spell] Cast Savage Roar (Savage Roar)
[F] 19:11:08 - [Spell] Cast Savage Roar (Savage Roar)
[F] 19:11:08 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:11:09 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:11:10 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:11:11 - [Spell] Cast Savage Roar (Savage Roar)
[F] 19:11:12 - [Spell] Cast Savage Roar (Savage Roar)
[F] 19:11:13 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:11:14 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:11:15 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:11:15 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:11:16 - [Spell] Cast Savage Roar (Savage Roar)
[F] 19:11:17 - [Spell] Cast Rake (Rake)
[F] 19:11:18 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:11:19 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:11:20 - [Spell] Cast Savage Roar (Savage Roar)
[F] 19:11:21 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:11:22 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:11:23 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:11:24 - [Spell] Cast Rip (Rip)
[F] 19:11:25 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:11:26 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:11:27 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:11:28 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:11:29 - [Spell] Cast Ferocious Bite (Ferocious Bite)
[F] 19:11:29 - [Spell] Cast Ferocious Bite (Ferocious Bite)
[F] 19:11:30 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:11:31 - [Spell] Cast Rake (Rake)
[F] 19:11:32 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:11:33 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:11:34 - [Spell] Cast Ferocious Bite (Ferocious Bite)
[F] 19:11:35 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:11:36 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:11:37 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 19:11:38 - [Spell] Cast Ferocious Bite (Ferocious Bite)

[ScripterQQ 89]

I don't know if this can help but I had a problem with Vampiric Touch, it was casting it twice (overlapping) because there was a split second between the end cast, and the VT debuff on the target, that the condition "Vampiric Touch: False" was triggered, imagine like a travel time, like a death coil, so between end cast and the actual debuff it was reading "no vampiric touch" thus it was casting it twice. The solution I found was adding on "Delay", a simple 1500, problem fixed. Now I don't know if this concept can be applied to the Savage Roar aswell, it sounds weird but you can try it if you want.

Or another thing, even better, instead of wrobot "Buff: Savage Roar: True", use "LUA script" in condition. and see if you get the same problem. (I assume you know lua, but in the remote case you don't, I write you the code here)

Lua Script

sr = "no"
if UnitBuff("player","Savage Roar")
then
sr = "yes"
end

Return Value Research: yes

Return Value Var: sr

[jcarlos1984 0]

4 hours ago, scripterx said:

I don't know if this can help but I had a problem with Vampiric Touch, it was casting it twice (overlapping) because there was a split second between the end cast, and the VT debuff on the target, that the condition "Vampiric Touch: False" was triggered, imagine like a travel time, like a death coil, so between end cast and the actual debuff it was reading "no vampiric touch" thus it was casting it twice. The solution I found was adding on "Delay", a simple 1500, problem fixed. Now I don't know if this concept can be applied to the Savage Roar aswell, it sounds weird but you can try it if you want.

Or another thing, even better, instead of wrobot "Buff: Savage Roar: True", use "LUA script" in condition. and see if you get the same problem. (I assume you know lua, but in the remote case you don't, I write you the code here)

Lua Script

sr = "no"
if UnitBuff("player","Savage Roar")
then
sr = "yes"
end

Return Value Research: yes

Return Value Var: sr

This did not work, is it wrobot application problem? He does not use the Savage Roar ability as he can check in the log
He is not really recognizing the Buff: Savage Roar> False condition to be activated with 5 combo point.

I'm really very discouraged.

00:28:43 - [Fight] Player Attack Dungeoneer's Training Dummy (lvl 112)
[F] 00:28:51 - [Spell] Cast Rake (Rake)
[F] 00:28:52 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 00:28:52 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 00:28:53 - [Spell] Cast Rake (Rake)
[F] 00:28:54 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 00:28:55 - [Spell] Cast Rip (Rip)
[F] 00:28:55 - [Spell] Cast Rip (Rip)
[F] 00:28:56 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 00:28:57 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 00:28:57 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 00:28:58 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 00:28:59 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 00:29:00 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 00:29:00 - [Spell] Cast Ferocious Bite (Ferocious Bite)
[F] 00:29:01 - [Spell] Cast Ferocious Bite (Ferocious Bite)
[F] 00:29:03 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 00:29:06 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 00:29:07 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 00:29:09 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 00:29:10 - [Spell] Cast Ferocious Bite (Ferocious Bite)
[F] 00:29:11 - [Spell] Cast Ferocious Bite (Ferocious Bite)
[F] 00:29:12 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 00:29:13 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 00:29:14 - [Spell] Cast Rake (Rake)
[F] 00:29:15 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 00:29:16 - [Spell] Cast Rip (Rip)
[F] 00:29:19 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 00:29:21 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 00:29:23 - [Spell] Cast Shred (Shred)
[F] 00:29:24 - [Spell] Cast Ferocious Bite (Ferocious Bite)
[F] 00:29:25 - [Spell] Cast Ferocious Bite (Ferocious Bite)
[F] 00:29:26 - [Spell] Cast Rake (Rake)

 

[ScripterQQ 89]

Then I really don't know, I hope someone can help you, this is very weird tbh..

[jcarlos1984 0]

4 hours ago, scripterx said:

Then I really don't know, I hope someone can help you, this is very weird tbh..

Thanks for trying to help, as I said earlier. I am very unhappy with Wrobot, it seems to have some bugs in Wrotation, and not even a help or any help from Droidz I received, so I researched it has several bot better rotations, would you like to know if I can have my money back?

[ScripterQQ 89]

As I said this issue it's kinda weird, it's kinda impossibile no one else noticed a major bug like this. That's why I'm thinking it's something wrong on your robot or fight class or idk what else, and I'm hoping that someone sees this topic and can help you (or maybe you find a solution by looking at similar profiles' comments and so on). No idea about the refund sorry, try to send a PM to Droidz and wait his response.

[Razzue 27]

Hmm, maybe I'll try to make a druid fight class and see if I can replicate this problem 

[ScripterQQ 89]

Just created a quick rotation on 3.3.5, working good without problems, it does Mangle, Rake, Savage Roar, and then Rip only if Savage Roar is up. You can test it and see if it works for you. Not sure if "Mangle (cat)" exists in your expansion, if not, just delete the ability and use Shred as the main combo points builder.

DRUIDSAVAGEROAR.xml

[jcarlos1984 0]

On 10/02/2018 at 3:42 AM, scripterx said:

Just created a quick rotation on 3.3.5, working good without problems, it does Mangle, Rake, Savage Roar, and then Rip only if Savage Roar is up. You can test it and see if it works for you. Not sure if "Mangle (cat)" exists in your expansion, if not, just delete the ability and use Shred as the main combo points builder.

DRUIDSAVAGEROAR.xml

It did not work, it keeps repeating the skill until Savage Roar is actually recognized as a buff, and I think I've figured out the problem. I'll try to explain....
The savage roar in legion 7.3.5 is a talent and not a buff literally then the wrobot is recognizing the buff: savage roar> false as the selected talent making it true, so he uses the skill many times before recognizing the buff and jumping for the next rotation skill that in this case is Rip.
It is the same as what happens when you have the active talent "Lunar Inspiration" where to rotate the moonfire as feral, you put the condition of Buff: Moon Inspiration> True and then Buff: Moonfire> False so he uses the ability on target forever that he is not with active in targert a moonfire debuff.
I would like someone to help me with Wrobot locating Savage Roar as a buff and not as talent, can anyone do it?

[jcarlos1984 0]

So I tried to explain, In the following photo of to observe well the problem. The Savage Roar talent ID is the same (52610) from Buff Savage Roar, so Wrobot does not recognize Savage Roar as a Buff and the Buff: Savage Roar> False condition is not recognized in Wrobot, it recognizes first the Savage Roar as Talent then he repeats the skill many times before continuing the rotation and often he does not even continue to spin repeating the Savage Roar infinitely, does anyone have any solution for this? PLEASE

[ScripterQQ 89]

Maybe it's the "Consolidate buffs"?  Idk.

[jcarlos1984 0]

24 minutes ago, scripterx said:

Maybe it's the "Consolidate buffs"?  Idk.

That's what I said, Savage Roar's ID (52610) is equal to the buff: Savage Roar that adds 15% bonus damage, so it also does not recognize the C sharp Code !ObjectManager.Me.HaveBuff(52610) as a buff, it must be recognizing as talent, then making it true automatic and definite, thus repeating several times the skill in rotation, without it continuing the rotation. But it's adding to Buff in a separate "Consolidated Buffs" window, and if he clicks the mouse he opens the window, even if he only has 1 buff active, he assembles this "Consolidated Buffs" for Savage Roar, Wrotation is not recognizing the buff Savage Roar, I reported it as a Wrotation bug in the forum bugs forum, let's hope the Droidz sees and considers this as a bug and us of a solution.