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Wow, that was about a month AFTER I stopped playing. That really sucks, I mean I understand the "why" and all, but it still really sucks. Honestly, if we had some kind of solidarity, the botting community could literally file a class action lawsuit against Blizzard with high potential to win considering we know everything that they are illegally spying on in the memory of OUR computers when WoW is running.

It wasn't always private servers, as in, when I paid for lifetime subscription, this bot was very active for retail, hell I was using it for retail back in 2018 in Legion with no issues. When did this turn into a "Private Server" bot only?

I figured out the problem. I did a fresh install of Windows 10 yesterday and I never reinstalled C++ Redistributed 2010 (x86) or (x64). I installed these, restarted PC, bot working beautifully now! Feel free to delete this thread, or close it, whichever! :)

Hi all! I just started playing WoW again and just started using the bot again within the last couple weeks. I had bought a lifetime key for the bot back a year or two ago, and it's been working perfectly, until today. Today, when I try to log in to the bot, it just hangs on the "In Progress" screen (see attached pic). I have let it sit this way for 5 minutes to see if any timeout would happen or to see if the server was just slower than usual and it would eventually log in, but nothing. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Waldo

Quite honestly, I have not used my warrior since...wow since MoP actually, but I can tell you one thing, Noxxic is absolute garbage. I wouldn't trust a single word from their page about anything, ESPECIALLY not stat weights or rotation. If I may do so, I would like to recommend Icy Veins to you. Here is their write up for a protection warrior: http://www.icy-veins.com/wow/protection-warrior-pve-tank-guide If, and I mean IF I have some time this weekend, I will try to throw together a quick profile for you to get started. Right now I am in the middle of two real estate investments, so my time is rather limited right now. I can tell you though, if you've been playing by Noxxic standards, switching to the recommendations of Icy Veins, you'll love your Prot Warrior all over again!!

Try checking here and reading all the way to the bottom, look at all the screen captures: Of course too, eeny was cool enough to literally make a Relogger tutorial video found here: I don't mean any disrespect to da8ball in what I am about to say, but by my guess, we are dealing with A) in this particular case. This is why I posted the links I did, hopefully this clears things up for you, 8ball. P.S. Also, just in case you are unaware, in the Gathering tool of the bot, actually I believe (without seeing the bot in front of me) it's in either General settings or the "Advanced" portion of General settings, there is an option to "use taxi" or something to that effect. This basically means that, if you ran profile "x" for 20 minutes, the bot logs out, logs back in whenever you set it to, loads profile "y" this time, the bot will take the according flight master. boat, zeppelin, whatever it needs to do to get to the area where the new profile is located. It's a very smart bot like that. :)

It's been an issue for a long time, to be honest. I've been using this bot for a while now, it seems only in flying is there a problem, ground stuff seems to be ok...anyway, I hope you get an answer about your issue.

Did you see my thread about the actual overall stuck detection of this bot in general? No one replied to it, except for me, so I wouldn't get too excited about it yet, just something we have to deal with it would seem, and I don't mean that in a bad way.

No replies to this? Seriously?

This is a great bot in many aspects, I have said it before. It is so great that I bought a lifetime subscription to it. The biggest problem, for whatever reason, continues to be the way the bot handles (or doesn't handle) getting stuck. Whether it is while the bot has found a mineral or herb and is enroute to it, or just flying the path of the profile itself, this is one of the worst bots I have ever used as far as stuck detection is concerned, and that concerns me. One example of when the bot finds a mine or herb, if my character is higher than the mineral, let's say near ICC (Icecrown Citadel), and I am flying up over one of the bridges, the bot will literally try to fly down through the actual walkway of the bridge. It will not move forward to clear the bridge, won't move side to side, won't move backwards, just flies up, then down, then up, then down, then up, then down, I have watched this for 5 minutes straight before stopping the bot to intervene. I don't know if this is due to lack of the bot detecting an actual floor or wall or anything in the way, I have no idea why the bot does this, but it is not a good thing at all and it is a crucial foundation for any successful bot. One example of getting stuck while flying the profile, this has nothing to do with the bot finding a mineral or herb, this is just while enroute through the profile itself. The bot will be flying forward and get stuck on a tree branch. I am not talking about a huge tree or a huge branch either, I am talking the very tip of a branch. In this case, the bot does nothing, it just keeps trying to fly straight, the way it was going, so to others they see a person just caught on a very small tip of a tree branch. All I have to do, literally, is tap the space bar once. I don't have to stop the bot, all I do is tap, just TAP the space bar and it clears the branch and continues flying the route. This happens more often than I would like to admit. I have actually re-recorded entire continent profiles literally to avoid all the trees I could just so this wouldn't happen, but obviously it can't avoid everything, and it still happens very often. I am not trying to sound like I am complaining, please don't take this the wrong way. However, this stuck detection problem has been the same and not changed since I started using this bot, and this isn't the first time I have brought this up. If you guys need me to take a video of this happening please let me know, if it helps I will do so. Whatever you guys need from me in order to help with this would greatly benefit the entire community, so please, again, let me know. Thanks! Waldo

I've not used this yet for leveling 1-100, but I am currently leveling a boosted RAF character (DK) from 90-100. I am mostly using self made gathering profiles to level, at the moment, some in Pandaria (since the herbs and ore still sell for a lot on the AH), and some in Frostridge. I wish I had more time from work to be able to really focus on making a 1-100 leveling profile, one for each faction, universal, just so everyone here would have access to one profile for everything leveling, but that would take some serious time that I just don't have to commit at this moment. I can't tell you how the grinding profiles here work, yet, but if I could give you advice, try some of the grinding profiles here or create your own and, when you run it, keep a close eye on the bot for the first hour or so, at least, just to make sure there's no hanging. I will say the unstuck detection has really come a long way just in the last bot update itself, so this is very good news! There are also some leveling profiles on this site that span 10 levels each, I have quickly looked them over, and downloaded a couple of them, but I've not used them yet, maybe something for you to look into though as well!

Thank you very much to both of you! Runaro, I understand that botting 101 has always been "If you're worried about being banned, don't bot or break TOS on that account!". I never use my main account to trade, bot, gamble, or any thing that violates TOS, my main account is my raiding account, it's the account I take very seriously, for a game... The reason I was asking was to find out if the ban was globally tied to the bnet account or just to the single WoW account on the bnet account, which chapperz answered, through experience as well, which was exactly what I was looking for. Not that I was hoping anyone ever gets their account banned, but at least they only banned one on your bnet account, not both, that answers my question perfectly. I appreciate the response from both of you, thank you for your time!! Cheers! -Waldo

First off, let me start with comments. It looks, to me, as if you guys did some work with the stuck detection in the last update. If you didn't, then somehow the bot magically gets unstuck in a completely different and much more efficient manner now! :P I noticed it on ground mounts in Draenor, places I would get stuck seemingly forever while the bot kept trying to loop the same CTM over and over, now tries two or three times and moves on. Bravo! That is a HUGE step forward! Next, I just want to say that I uploaded a revised version of Pasterke's Blood DK fight profile. My DK is not 100 yet, so I am looking for volunteers to test it out in situations where my DK just kills things too quickly to meet the conditions of certain spells. Any and all feedback, criticism, encouragement is appreciated as I want to stay on top of tweaking it for better overall use. Finally, here is the question. I had asked a good old friend of mine this question about 4 years ago or so, and despite his answer, the lack of proof he had behind the answer made me weary. I have one Battle Net account with two separate WoW accounts linked to the Battle Net account. I also have a RAF account that I use solely for botting, and it is on its own Battle Net account. My question is, IF I were to use ONLY ONE of the two accounts associated with my Battle Net account (the one with two accounts on it, of course) for botting, and I got caught for whatever reason, would BOTH of the WoW accounts on the one BNET account be banned, or just the one that they caught botting? The answer I got from a friend years ago was "They will only ban the one WoW account and not both...", but when I asked for proof or any research done into that, he could not provide any, and I never really found any answers to it through research myself. If anyone here has any information about that, I would be very appreciative if you could shed some light on that for me. I don't want to pay for three accounts, I honestly don't want to pay for two, but if I have to, I would like to transfer all of the characters that are important to me over to my actual MAIN WoW account under that particular BNET account, and just keep my one farming toon on the other BNET account, done deal. If Blizzard were to ban both accounts just because one was botting, I do not want to take the chance because again, the account NOT botting is my ten year old main account. I do not want to lose that!!! Cheers! -Waldo

Thank you for the look out! It's good to see people being proactive about this issue here on the forums!

Wow, a fellow Carbonite user! Been using Carbonite since its inception, and all the ups and downs in its development, it was hairy for a while, even when the map was outdated in MoP for months, I STILL used it, lol. It's become more of a built-in WoW interface to me more than an addon... P.S. I was watching the 1-60 Alliance questing video, almost 6 hours worth, that's a LOT of time put into that profile! Too bad I am Horde! :P I need a good weekend to get something together like that for Horde side. I have not yet started to dabble in the questing side of the bot, but what's nice is, you put in a TON of effort and time, but you only need to do it once, and then you just watch the bot level the rest of your characters for you! :)

I am glad you appreciate the organization I try to put into my constructive criticism. When I write such posts, it is not because I am complaining or that "I don't like the bot", it's actually quite the opposite. I love using this bot and it is a great bot to use, and I have used my fair share of botting programs in WoW and in other MMOs. The reason I write this stuff is because I believe that feedback is what helps fuel development. Let me rephrase that, "positive" feedback is what helps fuel development. There is nothing "negative" about this bot, as you stated above with your example of disabling flying in Zangar, there is always a way around a problem until the problem is rectified. All the small stuff, like skipping nodes, skipping after fighting, etc, that is very small stuff. I still gather TONS of nodes per hour despite these small glitches, so that is a definite positive side to it, it is not directly affecting the purpose of the bot, it's just weird seeing it happen, lol. The bigger stuff, again, to me, is the diving and flying into things repetitively, but again, no need to go there as I already have up above in my original post, and I trust that the development team is working on this. Some of the greatest bots I have ever used were the greatest bots because of not only the development team, but also the community itself. There will always be those who complain, however, true progress comes from those who observe, report, and offer to help out in any way they can. Interaction between user and developer is the defining relationship which either makes or breaks any piece of software. Ergo, if I can be of any assistance besides simply reporting findings, pleased let me know. My knowledge of programming is less than amateur at best, but I can test things with the best of them, and I am more than willing to as well. Cheers!

I figured I would write this after using the bot for one month, just to get out how I feel about going forward. I want to buy an unlimited subscription to this bot, but after this month, I am going to, for now, only purchase one more month's worth of time. I will get into the reasons as to why, bear with me. I like this bot, I really do, it has great potential and the community is active, friendly, and just plain good people. I like that I can choose to create a fight class the "cookie cutter" way by using the bot itself and setting rotation priorities, OR I can write a fight class using C++. Pasterke, I hope you don't mind but at the moment I am revamping your Blood DK fight class and may share it here within a week or two once I have the bugs out. Your foundation was awesome, don't get me wrong, but, being an ex hardcore raider, I am extremely picky when it comes to rotations and as to when to pop cool downs, so I used your already awesome Blood DK .cs file and tweaked it a bit. Profile recording is a breeze, and honestly, I created some pretty intensely huge profiles in multiple zones, I mean literally ALL of Outland, ALL of Pandaria, ALL of Northrend, profiles that took me hours to create, and this bot handled these profiles with absolute ease. There was no lag or stuttering due to an oversized file, no pausing for mesh updates, no double-backing on the path because the profile was recorded "too close" in proximity to other waypoints, it just works flawlessly. The biggest, and I am going to start with the BIGGEST reason here, the biggest reason I am waiting another month before purchasing the unlimited is because of stuck detection. In Zangarmarsh, for example, with the huge mushroom-tree things, if the bot detects a node and is flying above that mushroom-tree line, the bot will dive down on top of the mushroom cap, once it hits the cap it will fly back up about 10 feet, then spiral down back to the mushroom cap top, rinse and repeat over and over, each fly up/spiral down takes about 3-4 seconds, so imagine if a player was watching the bot do this every 3-4 seconds for a minute or more.... This particular situation happens on many obstacles in the game. If the bot detects a node and there is a rock or crystal formation between the path of the node and my character, the bot will literally just fly into the rock or crystal or whatever obstruction is in the way, it will not attempt to move, fly up, nothing, just keeps flying straight into the obstruction. I don't want to compare this bot to any other bots, but for the sake of constructive criticism, I am going to, sort of. The last bot I used had decent stuck detection, though I don't know how the code was written, I was never shown the source, I can tell you what the bot did for stuck detection. If the character became stuck, in flight, due to an obstacle, first it would try flying left and right 15-20 yards to get "around" the obstacle. It attempted once to the left, once to the right. If this failed, the bot would fly the character straight up, as if the player was holding the spacebar, about 100 yards, then forward about 35 yards, then do the left/right thing and try flying back down. If it was still stuck at this point (you could set the amount of "stuck" tries in the bot in case you didn't want to go through this more than once...), it would fly up 50-75 yards higher than it did the first time, then forward/ left/right and try landing again. It would repeat this, each time flying a little higher to try and clear the obstruction until it either succeeded or the specified amount of attempts had been reached and it simply just moved on to the next waypoint in the profile. Fortunately, I keep a close eye on the bot when I am using it. I am not the type to let it run for 12 hours without watching it, I think the longest I have run it for straight was 8 hours, and even then I am watching it at least 70% of the time while doing other things. Honestly, I can live with skipping nodes. I can live with not gathering a node after combat is finished, these are small glitches and, honestly, in the grand scheme they really don't affect production. Not having a good stuck routine, however, that can lead to players reporting you and getting you banned. This is my concern. I am not always going to be able to watch the bot like a hawk, honestly, let's face it, the point of botting is to "not" have to be in front of the game, at least that's what my end goal is. This cannot happen, unfortunately, if a player is continuously nose diving in spirals into a huge mushroom cap in Zangarmarsh or flying into a crystal formation in Hellfire. Even in Jade Forest and Kun Lai Summit I catch the bot just flying into a bamboo tree or stuck on a ledge. All I have to do sometimes is simply press the spacebar once quickly, sometimes that's all it takes, and bam, not stuck anymore, but I know this can be detected from within the bot and an automation can be written for it. Once this happens, honestly, I won't even wait for my month to be up whenever it is, I will buy the lifetime license outright, however, until action is taken in this area, I am going to use this bot and pay for it on a month to month basis. This may be more financially taxing to me in the long run, however, one fix of one issue is all it would take. Otherwise, as I stated above, this is literally the smoothest running bot I have ever used, I really do like this bot a lot!!! Waldo

I'm an idiot. Do you know how many times I have looked directly at the box you pointed to above and read those words and was completely oblivious to it? Wow, I feel pretty stupid right now, seriously, but thank you for pointing that out. Had it gotten any more obvious it would have bit me in the face, ha haaa. Good to know you guys are actively working on the development of this bot. I prefer smaller more close knit communities over the larger entities like Bossland and what not...there's a much more personal feel to everything and a closers relationship to not only the community, but the bot itself. If you need me for any testing, please let me know. I love testing new facets and I notice that fight books can be written in C language, so I am going to start working on any fight books that may be needed or updated. Thanks for the warm welcome! Waldo

Hi everyone! I just got back into playing WoW. I was very active in botting when GPBot and EZBot were being developed. I actually made friends with a couple of the developers and had a hand in creating some of the fight class books, good times they were! Anyway, having paid for a one month subscription for this bot, I will be purchasing the lifetime key once this sub is up. I do enjoy the bot, it has its quirks here and there, but without us letting you know what they are, how would you look into it, right? Honestly, great work so far with all of this, I love absolutely everything about what this bot is and what it offers, the following list is of six things that I feel need a little research and development: 1) In gathering, I created a profile and shared it here (in the Pandaria section of gathering profiles on the site), but this happens with all profiles regardless, if combat initiates before the node is mined or herb picked, after combat, the character mounts and flies away, completely disregarding the node which was initially to be farmed. This happens, from what I have observed in watching the bot run for 4 hours straight, once every 4 nodes in which the bot is attacked before farming. 2) "Unstuck", "Collision detecting", whatever it is you would like to call it (Getting stuck in a crevice or running directly into the face of a mountain), for ground mounts, needs some improvement. I created a grinding profile in Frostfire and also tested using other peoples' profiles to be sure it wasn't just mine, and I watched this bot get my character stuck in places the bot shouldn't have put him in to begin with...that is, with my grinding profiles, I never even went NEAR the general vicinity of the zone my toon got stuck in, so why was he even traveling to that area to begin with?? I observed this witrh both path randomization turned on (1.25) and turned off, did not seem to make a difference at all. 3) Back to gathering, this time for pathing. Again, this was tested with randomization on and off, I varied my randomization from 1 - 2, increments of .25. Regardless of whether the option to "go back to path" is ticked, the bot has the character fly back to the point where it was before it detected the node. This looks very "bot-like", and it is one of my greatest concerns. Again, I have tried checking, unchecking, randomizing, not randomizing, and saving and closing/reopening both WoW and the bot every time I made changes to ensure proper conditions were met if necessary. 4) This sort of ties in with number 1, however, in gathering, I have noticed the bot literally just skips nodes altogether. This was not during a vendor run (which works FLAWLESSLY, by the way, THANK YOU for that!!!), and there were literally no players or NPC enemies anywhere to be seen. I have seen this bot skip roughly 30 nodes per profile run. This isn't earth shattering, but something to be looked into. To make sure it was not user error, I checked the distance to scan (I generally keep it at 350) and seriously, the nodes being skipped were almost being touched by my mount as I flew over them, WELL within 50, let alone 350. As far as enemies, I set the max mobs (in Pandaria) to 25 since I am 93 right now and basically one shot normal mobs, and again, regardless of what I set the "Is player around" value to, without a player even being there, it would just decide not to farm some nodes... 5) I see no way to blacklist certain nodes, ie nodes used for questing. For example, Kafa'kota in Kun Lai Summit and Eternal Blossom in Vale of Blossoms, they are absolutely useless, they respawn very very quickly, and the bot just keeps circling the area and picking them. Understandably the bot is doing its job, and well, but with the respawn rate (especially of the Eternal Blossoms) being so quick, it's an endless loop of staying in that area, I counted, for over 45 minutes before moving on. It would be very nice to be able to blacklist particular nodes, whether by name or by item ID, whichever is easier to incorporate. If this function exists already and I have simply overlooked it, please let me know, I am human, of course, and I am not immune to "user error"... 6) This doesn't have to do with the bot, per se, however, it is relevant to it. The tutorials here in the forums are quite outdated, some were created in 2012, for example, others in 2013, and that's about the latest, 2013. The bot has obviously undergone many revisions since then, which is a good thing I am sure, but some of the menus shown in the tutorials do not even exist within the bot anymore. I know my way around programs and menus and what not, and again, having botted in the near distant past I can figure "most" things out on my own, but maybe this list I have put together is comprised of work-arounds that already exist in the bot, but there is no new and relevant material here to let anyone know. Other than those 6 "qualms", honestly, this is a wonderful bot! I hope you don't take that list of those 6 things as negative, because I am only offering that as constructive criticism. The vendor and mailbox adding/handling within profile creation and actual execution are the best I have seen in any bot I have ever used! Despite the fightbooks being a little outdated (I am using a Blood DK), I am confident I am rewrite updates versions and share them here on the forums, and even then the out dated fight books still work very well! This bot is already awesome, but I also see a lot of potential in it for the future, progress, however, can only be made if people come forth and give feedback, and that is what I am doing here. Thank you all for your time! Waldo