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  1. 2 hours ago, youthemannowdog said:

    Make a Patreon or Paypal account for donations or something.

    I absolutely encourage the project members to set up their own individual donation system. Now if you're referring to a shared account for the entire project, I don't think I'll do that for several reasons. First, we're just a few for now, and it doesn't make much sense. But for the sake of argument, let's say we do. How do you redistribute the money fairly? What do you invest in so everyone is happy? What happens when someone leaves? I'm not too keen on involving money in the process. I know too well what happens in this type of situation and I'd rather avoid the headache.

    That's why I make it clear from the beginning that anyone joining us won't be in for the money. Also, if we're being realistic, 99% of users will just use our product without leaving any feedback, or even knowing our existence, let alone donate money.

  2. Due to the lack of free available third party products in the store (plugins, fight classes, grinders, questers), I have decided to gather developers and testers under an umbrella project called "Project Wholesome".

    The goal of Project Wholesome is to develop, test, and freely share wRobot products. All the code created under the project will be transparent, open-source, and then released in the store for free. I insist on the fact that not a single line of code released under Project Wholesome  will be sold for profit. We already have a few people working together on fight classes and on profile creation.

    Developers : You want to help the community grow and participate in providing quality products or you want to learn how to create plugins, fight classes and profiles. You are willing to share your knowledge and your code to others. You are aware that you are not in for the money. You will take testers' feedback into account to polish your product. Once you finish a product, you will release it for free in the store, although you can call for donations on the product page. 

    Testers : You will have access to unfinished/beta products from our team under the condition that you provide active feedback through bug reports in the discord channel. You are willing to treat developers with respect and patience, keeping in mind that they are providing a service for free.

    Project Wholesome is all about trust, and keeping wRobot alive. We start small, setting realistic goals, but we intend to create a momentum and keep it growing as much as possible. If you are interested, feel free to join our channel.

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    https://discord.gg/NEq4VA6

  3. 3 hours ago, Bambo said:

    Oh guess what he is a mage.!! Now it makes sense.. 

    There it is. Right on cue.

    Frost mage, shadow priest and ret paladin. All 3 struggled terribly at the same places. But hey, whatever.

    You know what pisses me off? Not the 10 bucks I've wasted. It's the fact that you come here boasting about how perfect all your products are. I know I promised in PM not to call you out, but that's just too rich.

    You think I'm a moron, I think you're a fraud. Let's leave it at that.

  4. 5 hours ago, Matenia said:

    Enable fighting back. It's not ideal, but wRobot WILL fight back if you get attacked while you're running around trying to find a mob. If he adds them to the targets for the grinder, wRobot will actively target them (and if you keep dying, they are the closest mob, thus being the priority when targeting, getting you killed again), which is much worse than the occasional body pull.

    Yes I'm using fighting back. It doesn't  fix anything. You know very well that "attack before being attacked" only works when you're like 8 yards away from the mob, rendering it useless, especially if you're a weak ranged class, like a mage. It's so bad that we both tried to fix this issue with our respective plugins.

    Look, just give his profile a try and let me know how it goes, if you don't believe me. Wait till you reach the lower barrens, thousand needles, feralas, desolace etc. you'll know exactly what I mean.

    4 hours ago, Bambo said:

    Does it happen on any mobs that would give a value or are you still mad about me not adding the bears which are straight up too strong or the skorpids who are op against meele (both have been in the profiles and people begged me to remove them) If so speak up and let me know facts and mob names

    Edit: i rather have a few unsatisfied people and know what i am doing instead of making hundreds of people mad. You can not please everyone and my numbers speak for themselves. I am down to discuss facts but there is no facts coming from you other than what I already admitted 

    You can't be serious. When I spoke up and gave you facts, you straight up told me I was wrong. Here's proof from your bug-report discord channel:

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    Mob names, level portion, location. It's all there. How more factual can I be, exactly? So please, don't act annoyed, telling me I don't give you facts. Let's take this example from 2 months ago, I'm telling you that two mobs are missing from the profile, and although I don't use your profile anymore, I remember very well that this specific grind loop is infested with those 2 mobs, it's not an occasional issue, it's constant and I remember dying more than 10 times an hour there because of countless disadvantageous/multiple body pulls. I've leveled 3 characters with your profile and every time it was a pain, with always the same issues, this one just being one of them. It's so bad that I remember switching to the automaton at specific portions because it straight up worked better.

    So what will it be now? My FC sucks? I can't setup my wRobot properly? I'm undergeared? Explain how when I switched to Eeny's profile,  things suddenly worked much smoother, to the point that I can finally let the bot run without me babysitting it. If at first I hoped that you would fix things thanks to feedback from your bug report channel, I quickly understood that the channel is just a facade ,and you just counter argue or straight up ignore reports instead of seriously looking into potential issues. You're still doing that right now. Go ahead. Take a normal geared lvl37 mage to desolace and run your 37-40 portion, let me know how it goes.

    And if you resort to bring up your "numbers that speak for themselves", I think I've made my point. I'm very glad you're making "hundreds" of people happy. Have your next Bier in Kreutzberg on my dime, bro. Cheers! ?

  5. 27 minutes ago, Bambo said:

    If we are talking about adding valuable mobs to the lists I am all for that. But (can't remember too detailed) you either wanted me to add the very strong bears or the skorpids with the debuff stack. In both cases I still defend my point: Better without them!

    But... you realize removing them from the profile doesn't remove them from the game, right? If the grinding loop stays the same, you will still run into their face and it's gonna be even worse cause you're probably gonna aggro them while pulling another mob. I'm not talking out of my ass here, I'm talking out of experience. It happens constantly with your profile. It looks very botish, and it makes you die a ton. It's incredibly frustrating. If mobs on a loop are too problematic, change the loop!

    The fact that you still defend your point on this very subject blows my mind. It's cool that you intend to fix the rest, but to me, as long as this problem remains in your profile, it makes it unusable.

  6. 13 minutes ago, Bambo said:

    all the crying and hate and nothing is gonna change, what do you guys want us to do?

    my grinders are 99% afkable, if wrobot is in control though and there is a complete different state going on like ToTown or Resurect, I feel like I am not responsible anymore. Whenever my grinder profiles are active, they indeed are close to 100% afkable. Ofc sometimes you get stuck in a mesh or end up in a different region with high level mobs (guess what dude, it was ToTown)... I can agree that questers are just much more prone to being buggy and a 99% afkable statement for a quester is probably a bit over the top but also on these ones most bugs are actually happening OUTSIDE the profile state (if it is a polished and dedicated profile, which I would call my products).

    I see no point in this thread, it is getting nowhere. I am not calling anyone a peasant but there is clearly people lacking wrobot knowledge here and that is no shame. But then don't speak up that loudly and shoot bullets towards people that are in no way responsible for the problems you are mentioning.

    I didn't want to come to this, but seeing you bragging in this thread about the quality of your "polished and dedicated" products... I have to react. As you know, I bought your 10€ TBC grinder and here's my experience with it:

    • The amount of mobs you blindly removed from the grinding loops is so high that the bot keeps running face first into multiple enemies. I can't even count the amount of time I died because of this. We argued about that. You camped your position saying it's "better like that". No, it's not. It's objectively really bad.
    • The bot gets stuck in Feralas running back and forth on a path (the state NOT being ToTown). It's happened to me and other, it's been reported 2 months ago, nothing has been done about it, despite it being a critical issue.
    • Once lvl 60, the bot is supposed to go to Outlands. It's bugged and just stops moving until you manually take over and run to Outlands yourself
    • It's supposed to have features like "Automated Buying of low level weapons & armor", never seen that happened, although I don't mind it too much. Same with Hearthstone.

    The only plugin I'm using is HMP, which you actually recommend. On top of all this, and despite my will to take some time to report those bugs, you instantly assumed I, or my FC, was incompetent, and nothing has been ever fixed.

    You seem to reflect all your product's issues on incompetence or misusage from the user, or external factors. The problems I've listed are your product's fault. Cause if you had tested it, you'd have encountered them as well. I resorted to buying Eeny's 1-70 grinder (which disappeared from the store?), and well, it sadly performs much better.

    What do we want you to do, you ask? Take responsibility. Fix your products. Maintain it. QA it. Test it thoroughly with an undergeared character. Remake faulty routes. And give users a little credit. I'm very much aware of how hard it is to make profiles, but you, and only you, chose to make a business out of it. Quit the defensive outrage.

  7. 8 hours ago, Ordush said:

    This is like yelling at your parents because you don't like all the candy in your bag.. 

    What an analogy. I'm not sure what the point of it was, but it only states that you're either viewing customers as children, or that you're some kind of benevolent Santa Claus. You are selling stuff here. Trying to make a profit. Don't fool yourself. 

    This is really strange. I feel like there is some sort of elitism in this community. You're either pat of the godlike creators who can do no wrong, or you're part of the filthy peasants who understand nothing and should remain silent. You have a few people here complaining about the quality of paid stuff and you just call them "entitled millennials"? Come on.

    If creators here were as philanthropic as some of you pretend they are, they would be teaming up and create free quality FC/profiles for the community. It might sound crazy, but I think the solution lies there. So, if you're a developer, or a tester and you're interested in participating, join my discord and let's actually move forward.

  8. Maybe I didn't express myself clearly when I said people are in the dark. I'm talking about casual users. Those who don't know programming and who just want to level a few characters. You seem to be saying that anyone who uses wRobot needs to be an advanced programmer. How is wRobot advertised as such? It even says on the front page "Easy to use", "...for even the most novice user...".

    So he downloaded wRobot and later realized that he's been "tricked". This is what enrages people.

    It doesn't matter if the OP is a code genius or an HTML beginner. Although I disagree with a lot of what he said and he was clearly in over his head, he talked about his experience as a new user and the problems he faced and everyone should hear it. I faced the exact same problems: lack of free decent third party stuff. Actually, Profiles and Fight classes shouldn't even be called "third party" since they're so core to wRobot. This is the real subject: the shady practices behind wRobot and the reasons behind them. When people put money into FCs and profiles that suck, they feel robbed, they rage, they leave and never come back. That creates a thinner user base, a recalcitrant community... and less customers for you!

  9. A lot of people are in the dark when it comes to wRobot and its current state. Bringing its issues to light can help some people realize that they're not necessarily using the bot wrong, and it can help them voice their concerns too. What do you propose? Silence discontent people?

    You don't like the thread? Fine. But you realize you can choose to just ignore it, instead of actively ridiculing it, right? Believe it or not, I am interested in hearing people's opinions. All of them.

  10. 15 minutes ago, Findeh said:

    Also your solution is also bad. It will attack any mob on the way when he does not need to attack anyon

    I don't think it's bad at all bad if you can set it properly. That's why I said "valid" hostile mob. That means ignoring low levels, critters, passives, ignore when mounted etc... only mobs that WILL engage you if you step forward another 3 yards, if you prefer.

    20 minutes ago, Matenia said:

    Been trying to get this done with the experimental options in HMP since 2018.

    I saw that and gave it a shot. It was funny to notice you've encountered the same problems I did. Then I thought... shit, if even Matenia couldn't make it, I'm toast ? 

  11. 13 minutes ago, Findeh said:

    At this video, you can see how bot is trying to frost bolt elemental first, but facing wrong direction, so it quits it and goes for a bird. That facing wrong direction is also bot side problem.

    I disagree. Nothing indicates that the bot tried to engage combat with the elemental. It just went straight for the bird. The elemental is ignored either because it's blacklisted or not in the profile.

    This is most likely the profile's fault and it's incredibly common.

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